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Superman has an “Invincible problem” because the character no longer defines the superhero space, according to Rob Liefeld and Robert Kirkman

Rob Liefeld and Robert Kirkman say Invincible is defining the superhero space that was once occupied by Superman, and the Man of Steel has to adapt if he wants to stay relevant

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Image credit: Ryan Ottley/Cliff Rathburn/John Rauch (Image Comics/Skybound Entertainment)

Look! Up in the sky! It’s a bird! It’s a plane! No, it’s Invincible.

There was a time when that would’ve been Superman, but Invincible seems to be driving the culture surrounding superhero media, according to Robert Kirkman and Rob Liefeld. When people think of an alien superhero who flies and has super-strength, their minds go to Invincible.

“I say this with the greatest respect for Superman, but I believe now in the same way that when Star Wars came out, suddenly Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon had a Star Wars problem,” Rob Liefeld says during a recent appearance on Robservations with Rob Liefeld. “They were not defining the space anymore, and they were certainly not at top of mind. Suddenly, everything in the science fiction room was trying to be Star Wars. I was there. I watched it in 78, 79, and 80. Battle Beyond the Stars, Battlestar Galactica, and Buck Rogers. Everything had this aesthetic.”

“I believe Superman has an Invincible problem now. I believe the tables have 1000% turned, and I mean, I really do believe the space of this style of superhero is now being defined by what [Robert Kirkman], and [Ryan, and Cory did and what the show is doing, and it’s up to Superman to somehow adapt,” Liefeld explains.

Kirkman, who created Invincible with Cory Walker in 2003, sees a little bit of Invincible in new iterations of Superman media.

“When I see Superman comics where they’re giving Superman a kid, and when I see Superman cartoons where they’re making the Kryptonians Viltrumites, sometimes I’m like, hm, that’s kind of weird,” Kirkman says. However, Kirkman made it clear that he doesn’t see it as plagiarism. “Very creative people are doing this stuff, and I think it’s a zeitgeist thing. It’s not necessarily like anyone going, well, you know the Kryptonians would be cooler if they were more like Viltrumites. Although, let’s be honest, that’s true. But I don’t think it’s a deliberate thing.”


 

Joshua Lapin-Bertone

Joshua Lapin-Bertone: Joshua is a pop culture writer specializing in comic book media. His work has appeared on the official DC Comics website, the DC Universe subscription service, HBO Max promotional videos, the Batman Universe fansite, and more. In between traveling around the country to cover various comic conventions, Joshua resides in Florida where he binges superhero television and reads obscure comics from yesteryear.

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